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Originally Posted by Hamble
Which other section of politics supports the Republican cause?
Would the 'peace process' continue with Comrade Corbin PM recognising The Republic of N.I and supporting a minority against a majority religious group end peacefully?
"The Republic of N.I." is something you've just made up, isn't it? Your usual gibberish.
Irish republicans want a united Ireland in which the "majority religious group" would be Catholic, although with the decline in church attendance, I'd say the Catholic/Protestant divide is becoming less relevant, and political divides are becoming more relevant.
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Originally Posted by RCG123
"The Republic of N.I." is something you've just made up, isn't it? Your usual gibberish.
Irish republicans want a united Ireland in which the "majority religious group" would be Catholic, although with the decline in church attendance, I'd say the Catholic/Protestant divide is becoming less relevant, and political divides are becoming more relevant.
I would laugh at your PR if terrorism was not such a sickening event.
Make me feel better....condemn radical religious terrorism in the UK and
that other country Corbyn has promised to liberate from The West should he be elected head of a British Government?
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The idea that Jeremy Corbyn laid the foundations for peace in Northern Ireland is total fantasy.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2015/08/07...total-fantasy/
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Originally Posted by Hamble
I would laugh at your PR if terrorism was not such a sickening event.
Make me feel better....condemn radical religious terrorism in the UK and
that other country Corbyn has promised to liberate from The West should he be elected head of a British Government?
I have no desire to make you feel better. As an atheist I'm happy to condemn anything to do with religion.
The DUP was formed in 1971 by the old bigot Ian Paisley. In 1981 Paisley formed the Third Force, a paramilitary group.
In 1986 Ulster Resistance was formed at a meeting chaired and addressed by DUP members including Paisley and Peter Robinson. There are photos of Robinson parading in the red beret and fatigues. He went on to lead the DUP and became N.I.'s First Minister. In 1987 UR collaborated with other groups to smuggle arms. Some of UR's members were jailed.
From 1982-84 Jeffrey Donaldson acted as Enoch Powell's constituency agent after Powell was expelled from the Tory Party for his fascist beliefs. Donaldson is now the DUP's longest-serving MP.
Emma Little Pengelly (daughter of the UR arms smuggler Noel Little) was elected as a DUP MP for South Belfast on June 8th. Peter Robinson, ex-terrorist, was her "chief strategist". She was also endorsed by the Ulster Political Research Group, an organisation with close links to the UDA.
On 28th May the UDA killed one of their rivals, Colin Horner. Within 48 hours Arlene Foster, head of the DUP, met the UDA leader Jackie McDonald in South Belfast, a target seat for the DUP.
In 2007 the Sunday Life, sister paper to the Belfast Telegraph, reported that UR is still active and armed.
Will you condemn Tory links to these terrorists? Are you happy that the leader of your party is letting terrorist sympathisers in to the heart of Britain's government?
I know the answer, since you said "Tory coalition with DUP-great bonding with N.I."
By the by, you never did tell us about this "Republic of Northern Ireland".
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Originally Posted by RCG123
I have no desire to make you feel better. As an atheist I'm happy to condemn anything to do with religion.
The DUP was formed in 1971 by the old bigot Ian Paisley. In 1981 Paisley formed the Third Force, a paramilitary group.
In 1986 Ulster Resistance was formed at a meeting chaired and addressed by DUP members including Paisley and Peter Robinson. There are photos of Robinson parading in the red beret and fatigues. He went on to lead the DUP and became N.I.'s First Minister. In 1987 UR collaborated with other groups to smuggle arms. Some of UR's members were jailed.
From 1982-84 Jeffrey Donaldson acted as Enoch Powell's constituency agent after Powell was expelled from the Tory Party for his fascist beliefs. Donaldson is now the DUP's longest-serving MP.
Emma Little Pengelly (daughter of the UR arms smuggler Noel Little) was elected as a DUP MP for South Belfast on June 8th. Peter Robinson, ex-terrorist, was her "chief strategist". She was also endorsed by the Ulster Political Research Group, an organisation with close links to the UDA.
On 28th May the UDA killed one of their rivals, Colin Horner. Within 48 hours Arlene Foster, head of the DUP, met the UDA leader Jackie McDonald in South Belfast, a target seat for the DUP.
In 2007 the Sunday Life, sister paper to the Belfast Telegraph, reported that UR is still active and armed.
Will you condemn Tory links to these terrorists? Are you happy that the leader of your party is letting terrorist sympathisers in to the heart of Britain's government?
I know the answer, since you said "Tory coalition with DUP-great bonding with N.I."
By the by, you never did tell us about this "Republic of Northern Ireland".
Condemn specifically the Terrorist group Hamas?
Do me a favour.....
Labour have boarded the outrage bus over the Tories doing a deal with the “bigots and terrorist-sympathisers” in the DUP. They have some nerve…
https://order-order.com/2017/06/11/l...-with-the-dup/
The difference is May has condemned DUP terrorism Corbyn refuses to condemn IRA terrorism.
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Corbyn wants to give the Irish a Republic at any price.
Will Eire stay neutral or join the fight?
'A Republic Of Northern Ireland' stands for descriptive purposes thank you.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Condemn specifically the Terrorist group Hamas?
Do me a favour.....
Labour have boarded the outrage bus over the Tories doing a deal with the “bigots and terrorist-sympathisers” in the DUP. They have some nerve…
https://order-order.com/2017/06/11/l...-with-the-dup/
The difference is May has condemned DUP terrorism Corbyn refuses to condemn IRA terrorism.
?
Corbyn wants to give the Irish a Republic at any price.
Will Eire stay neutral or join the fight?
'A Republic Of Northern Ireland' stands for descriptive purposes thank you.
You really are in good company on that site, have you read the follow up comments? what a collection of seriously disturbed individuals, including a number who believe that Labour only made progress due to the Muslim vote which now almost equals the white (hence true Brit vote) firmly believing that every white British voter is also a Tory voter.
When it comes to terrorists and terrorism, no matter how much we vilify, despise and hate them, we have only two solutions, either KILL every terrorist and sympathiser, or eventually we talk, if not directly to terrorists, we talk to their supporters and sympathisers, cut off support for the violence and reach some sort of common ground, this doesn't happen overnight by a long way.
Even in my lifetime, when I was young there was still a fair degree of hostility in this country between Catholic and Protestant, probably one very good reason why so many have turned away from religion because we no longer swallowed the garbage spouted by religion of all types.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
You really are in good company on that site, have you read the follow up comments? what a collection of seriously disturbed individuals, including a number who believe that Labour only made progress due to the Muslim vote which now almost equals the white (hence true Brit vote) firmly believing that every white British voter is also a Tory voter.
When it comes to terrorists and terrorism, no matter how much we vilify, despise and hate them, we have only two solutions, either KILL every terrorist and sympathiser, or eventually we talk, if not directly to terrorists, we talk to their supporters and sympathisers, cut off support for the violence and reach some sort of common ground, this doesn't happen overnight by a long way.
Even in my lifetime, when I was young there was still a fair degree of hostility in this country between Catholic and Protestant, probably one very good reason why so many have turned away from religion because we no longer swallowed the garbage spouted by religion of all types.
I posted it for the editorial comment.
Unfortunately I could not credit the source without.
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Condemn specifically the Terrorist group Hamas?
Do me a favour.....
Labour have boarded the outrage bus over the Tories doing a deal with the “bigots and terrorist-sympathisers” in the DUP. They have some nerve…
https://order-order.com/2017/06/11/l...-with-the-dup/
The difference is May has condemned DUP terrorism Corbyn refuses to condemn IRA terrorism.
?
Corbyn wants to give the Irish a Republic at any price.
Will Eire stay neutral or join the fight?
'A Republic Of Northern Ireland' stands for descriptive purposes thank you.
This thread is about the General Election, not Hamas. Nor is it about Israeli destruction of Palestinian homes, illegal settlements etc.
What relevance does Gordon Brown have to today's politics?
The article you cut and pasted shows Brown seeking support from "the DUP and other parties". Brown spoke to "you (Peter Robinson) and the leaders of all political parties in the Assembly". He discussed N.I.'s block grant in "meetings with you and the Deputy First Minister". The Deputy was Martin McGuinness of Sinn Fein. Hardly evidence of seeking a deal with the DUP.
It's clear that the Tories and UUP were aligned, so why shouldn't Brown talk to other parties? It's called electioneering. Working with all other parties seems an odd way to "do a deal" with the DUP.
This is a feeble attempt to show some equivalence between Brown talking to all parties in N.I. and May seeking a deal with the DUP, ex-terrorists and terrorist supporters. A party with only 10 MPs seems to be in a position to make demands of the Government as it props up the floundering Theresa May.
You say May has "condemned DUP terrorism", so it seems very strange that she should be happy to depend on them.
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Originally Posted by RCG123
This thread is about the General Election, not Hamas. Nor is it about Israeli destruction of Palestinian homes, illegal settlements etc.
What relevance does Gordon Brown have to today's politics?
The article you cut and pasted shows Brown seeking support from "the DUP and other parties". Brown spoke to "you (Peter Robinson) and the leaders of all political parties in the Assembly". He discussed N.I.'s block grant in "meetings with you and the Deputy First Minister". The Deputy was Martin McGuinness of Sinn Fein. Hardly evidence of seeking a deal with the DUP.
It's clear that the Tories and UUP were aligned, so why shouldn't Brown talk to other parties? It's called electioneering. Working with all other parties seems an odd way to "do a deal" with the DUP.
This is a feeble attempt to show some equivalence between Brown talking to all parties in N.I. and May seeking a deal with the DUP, ex-terrorists and terrorist supporters. A party with only 10 MPs seems to be in a position to make demands of the Government as it props up the floundering Theresa May.
You say May has "condemned DUP terrorism", so it seems very strange that she should be happy to depend on them.
Corbyn like you refuses to condemn terrorism by The IRA and Hamas.
May condemns all terrorism.
That means terrorist groups Corbyn and you class as 'freedom fighters' are still terrorist groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rrorist_groups
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Originally Posted by Hamble
I'm fairly sure that Corbyn is on record as condemning all forms of terrorism, the fact that he tries and has tried to talk to militant groups is no indication of support, reality is we either talk to these groups, or kill them all, sitting on the sidelines won't stop anything.
Please stop scrabbling around trying to justify a floundering MP and government, May's great scheme of things to come went straight down the pan, if the only way forward for her is to rely on a bunch of NI politicians with some extremist ideals, many not compatible with the majority in the UK, that is a very poor situation.
Tell me how many people in the UK mainland voted for the DUP? yet they could have a great deal of influence on the UK as a whole, totally wrong.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
I'm fairly sure that Corbyn is on record as condemning all forms of terrorism, the fact that he tries and has tried to talk to militant groups is no indication of support, reality is we either talk to these groups, or kill them all, sitting on the sidelines won't stop anything.
Please stop scrabbling around trying to justify a floundering MP and government, May's great scheme of things to come went straight down the pan, if the only way forward for her is to rely on a bunch of NI politicians with some extremist ideals, many not compatible with the majority in the UK, that is a very poor situation.
Tell me how many people in the UK mainland voted for the DUP? yet they could have a great deal of influence on the UK as a whole, totally wrong.
http://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-cor...ciety-10886500
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Originally Posted by Hamble
Your point is? or do you just read the headline, Corbyn condemned the actions of both sides of the dispute and yes he was right in that peace only came about by talking to these people.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Your point is? or do you just read the headline, Corbyn condemned the actions of both sides of the dispute and yes he was right in that peace only came about by talking to these people.
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"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised after he refused five times to directly condemn the IRA in an interview with Sky News."
Condemning 'bombing' conveniently leaving some room for slit throats and mowing people down with vehicles ?
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Originally Posted by Hamble
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"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised after he refused five times to directly condemn the IRA in an interview with Sky News."
Condemning 'bombing' conveniently leaving some room for slit throats and mowing people down with vehicles ?
As I thought, read the headlines, ignore the content, good night.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
As I thought, read the headlines, ignore the content, good night.
Night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02z3x45
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