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Antiques Thread: smoking / cigar ashtray ???

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    smoking / cigar ashtray ???

    Hi everyone,
    can any one tell me what these are??
    i kind of think they are for cigars and matches but cant find anything on the internet or the maker.

    marked with ALBERT BARKER LD LONDON W REGd no.470122

    any information would be great.

    happy easter.
       



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    I think the Alber Barker Ltd is this guy (there seems to be a lot of silver work produced by him - this was on a forum at 925-1000.com) :

    Albert Barker started his business in c.1885, after previously holding the position of a director at Walter Thornhill & Co., Dressing Case and Travelling Bag Manufacturers of 144, New Bond Street. By 1892 he was the holder of a Royal Warrant granted by H.M.Queen Victoria and T.R.H The Prince and Princess of Wales. Albert Barker's manufactory was located at 25, Lexington Street, Golden Square, and from that address and the New Bond Street one, they were converted into a limited liability company in 1893 with Albert Barker being the sole director. The factory was to move the following year to 9, Great Newport Street, Charing Cross Road, London, but is thought to have closed soon afterwards.

    By 1913 the company was in the hands of Frank Shuttleworth and Arthur Percy Almond, but the fortunes of the firm had declined badly, and the they were wound up in March 1915. What was left of the business was continued By Frank Shuttleworth and another former employee, the new firm being styled Baxter & Shuttleworth (successors to Albert Barker), they were located at 54, South Molton Street, London, but the partnership was dissolved in February 1916, and although Frank Shuttleworth continued for another couple of years, he was bankrupted in 1918.

    A cigarette case by Albert Barker Ltd in the V&A collection can be seen here: http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O7326 ... arker-ltd/

    Albert Barker entered marks at the London Assay Office on the 17th April 1890, 'AB' contained in an oval, and on the 18th August 1890, 'AB' contained in an oval. Albert Barker Ltd. entered their marks at the LAO on the 17th September 1901, 'A.B' in an oblong punch with clipped corners in two sizes, and on the 3rd December 1913, 'AB above Ld contained in a trefoil, and on the 19th February 1914 another similar.
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    update

    got this back from national archives.
    entered in Jan 1884 and signed by the man himself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ruler!1 View Post
    I think the Alber Barker Ltd is this guy (there seems to be a lot of silver work produced by him - this was on a forum at 925-1000.com) :

    Albert Barker started his business in c.1885, after previously holding the position of a director at Walter Thornhill & Co., Dressing Case and Travelling Bag Manufacturers of 144, New Bond Street. By 1892 he was the holder of a Royal Warrant granted by H.M.Queen Victoria and T.R.H The Prince and Princess of Wales. Albert Barker's manufactory was located at 25, Lexington Street, Golden Square, and from that address and the New Bond Street one, they were converted into a limited liability company in 1893 with Albert Barker being the sole director. The factory was to move the following year to 9, Great Newport Street, Charing Cross Road, London, but is thought to have closed soon afterwards.

    By 1913 the company was in the hands of Frank Shuttleworth and Arthur Percy Almond, but the fortunes of the firm had declined badly, and the they were wound up in March 1915. What was left of the business was continued By Frank Shuttleworth and another former employee, the new firm being styled Baxter & Shuttleworth (successors to Albert Barker), they were located at 54, South Molton Street, London, but the partnership was dissolved in February 1916, and although Frank Shuttleworth continued for another couple of years, he was bankrupted in 1918.

    A cigarette case by Albert Barker Ltd in the V&A collection can be seen here: http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O7326 ... arker-ltd/

    Albert Barker entered marks at the London Assay Office on the 17th April 1890, 'AB' contained in an oval, and on the 18th August 1890, 'AB' contained in an oval. Albert Barker Ltd. entered their marks at the LAO on the 17th September 1901, 'A.B' in an oblong punch with clipped corners in two sizes, and on the 3rd December 1913, 'AB above Ld contained in a trefoil, and on the 19th February 1914 another similar.
     

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    You have been given a lot of information so far.

    Reg mark .......c1905- c1910
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